Gunpowder Chronicle posted on August 22, 2007 10:38 PM | Rating:  | Views: 473
The vaunted legal mind John Robinson, lately relieved of his gig at WICO, is now proferring legal advice on his blog at http://robinson1320.blogspot.com/. Luckily for the attorneys in Salisbury -- the good, the bad, and the ugly -- his legal advice will be no more successful than his abortive radio career.
In his post title "Press -- Pass", the ever-truculent John Robinson, Esquire posts the following:
Just a thought from an insider. PRESS PASS???
If your not press and you get sued in civil court. You must answer a question truthfully. The 5th amendment doesn't work because you are not in a criminal trial. Therefore when your not PRESS and they ask you who told you what? You have to reveal your sources. So sometimes civil cases are not about the money. Sometimes its about proving your point. Or finding out who is pointing the finger!
Makes you think twice about who you tell what to! Now doesn't it!
Of course, John is really referring to Runaround Sue in this post. The problem is, just as John can't find a rating point with both hands and a flashlight, neither can he post anything relevant regarding the Tilghman v. Albero or Webster v. Albero cases.
Both cases-- based on what has been released publicly-- are defamation cases. In a defamation case in the State of Maryland, the plaintiff must prove with a preponderence of the evidence (it is a civil case, after all) that statements or writings by the defendent have caused measureable harm to the plaintiff. Unlike the State of New York, we do not have a libel per se law in Maryland, where the amount or type of harm can be a) subjective and b) totally determined by the plaintiff.
That means that both Mayor Barrie Tilghman and Police Chief Alan Webster have to show to the court that their reputations and character were harmed by untrue claims or lies written by Runaround Sue in such a way that the harm can be measured. For example, if Police Chief Alan Webster could produce evidence that he was denied a position-- say as Baltimore City's new Police Commissioner -- based on comments made by Runaround Sue, that would be measureable harm to his reputation.
Or, if Mayor Tilghman could produce evidence to show that she was no longer able to effectively carry out her duties as Mayor of Salisbury due to those untrue claims or lies, that would be measureable harm.
Note that these are only two examples.
In either case, the issue of who the sources are does not matter under the statutes in Maryland. It is not an adequate defense on the part of Runaround Sue only to say "I was only repeating what I heard." More importantly, it is also not an issue in the defamation claim as the claim is directed solely at Runaround Sue and no other "et als" or "John Does".
Now, it's been a LOOONG time since I reviewed court room procedures in Maryland (at least 16 or 17 years), so if any attorney wants to correct me, please do. But from what I remember, if Runaround Sue actually takes the stand to testify, plaintiff's counsel can only bring the source issue a) if defendant's counsel addressed in direct examination, or b) it is brought up to impeach. This is pretty standard stuff.
Furthermore, the burden that damage occurred is on the PLAINTIFF to prove, not the defendant to disprove. We learned this, if you all will get in the "way back machine" with me, in Westmoreland v CBS. In the United States, unlike the United Kingdom, libel, defamation, and slander require the PLAINTIFF to prove the damage occurred and to stipulate the nature of the damage.
This obviously brings up two important points: a) it is hard to defame character where none exists and b) no sane individual not related to Runaround Sue actually takes him seriously.
Back to John Robinson, Esquire, the Fifth Amendment has nothing to do with the case at all. The issue of it being a civil case or a criminal case is moot. The issue at hand is the structure of defamation law in Maryland (this is not a Federal issue) and court procedures. Furthermore, the issue of Runaround Sue's Kinko-printed press badge is irrelevant as well. Even if the courts OR the law regarded bloggers as journalists, Maryland's shield law (which only covers journalists, not bloggers) only allows the courts to compel disclosure of a source when a compelling state interest exists.
For example, if a reporter for the Baltimore Sun had a source that knew the location of a kidnapped child, the reporter could be compelled to reveal his source. (Note: this was an actual case from the late 1970s/early 1980s. I forget the name, but I argued it for mock trial in high school before the Honorable Judge Simpson in the late 1980s. As I recall, Parkside beat Wi-Hi in that trial! Go Rams!)
No compelling interest exists here. None. Nada. Zip.
Back to John Robinson, Esquire, again, but on a different angle.
You have claimed for months that you have asked for nothing more than Runaround Sue to leave you alone. But then you go and poke the panther in the cage? Then, you include the following little wimper in your self-inflicted whine and cheese party:
He made my life hell - now it is my turn. I will have my day in court. And He will pay. He made my life hell with hundreds of emails and constant lies. Everyone is scared of this liar. I am not. He twists almost everything. How many of his freinds has he turned on? When he lies or screws up he asks forgiveness but when anyone misspeaks inregards to him, the pest threatens to sue. Notice he won't sue me! Because I have openly called him out. Has anyone else stood up to him? No they turn and run from the bully.
Why do you people defend this guy? He is a resident of Delaware who is costing Maryland thousands! I am not scared of this guy why are you? That is the real question.
He made your life hell?
Are you off your Xanax, or something? Some johnny-come-lately from Slower Delaware picks on you a little bit, and you throw a crying jag? And to top it off, you accuse everyone of being scared of him? Here's some kleenex, and by the way, your eyes are turning red. You are whimpering little sniveling piece of ground up monkey meat. How is anyone supposed to take you seriously? First, you write something completely stupid, and then second, you whine about how the playground bully picked on you and tried to steal your lunch money.
You want sympathy? Buy a Hallmark store.
What court will you have your day in? The People's Court? Is Randy the Bailiff going to make sure you don't get picked on? You would be better off following the advice of the sage: Better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you a fool than to confirm the suspicion by opening it.
John Robinson, Esquire and Runaround Sue are like two monkeys flinging crap at each other in the trees. Neither is too intelligent nor are the smart enough to see that people are laughing at them, not with them.
Oh, one other thing, John Robinson, Esquire: we're pulling your man card.
Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:38 AM
This has to be the funniest post I've read on a blog for the last two or three months! My cereal milk came out of my nose when you said they were monkeys slinging crap.
Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:47 AM
Awwwwwwwww you hurt his wittle feewings...he closed his blog down
Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:52 AM
http://www.sbynews.com/audio/woohoo.wma
Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:52 AM
Seeing as you brought up this crap. I had a "REAL" lawyer give me some advice about people that shit on you and call you names. "Yes they crapped all over you and now you want revenge. You need to understand that pile of shit will soon stop stinking, crust over and disappear. But you start poking a stick in and stir it up it's going to stink to high heavens and then what have you gained? More times than not you are better of to just leave it alone." Smart man.
Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:53 AM
I got sucked into JOES legal garbage because he told me who his sources were. Back when we were friends-- before he found out Jim Rapp and I were such good friends. I did not reveal them to the public. I have made a point to go to them individually and tell them what I have been advised. Simply put that is I DO NOT have to reveal the names because in fact I was PRESS at the time. However, I let those folks know that others Joe may have mentioned in passings are not protected by the law as I am. I only did this so some decent people didnt get blindsided and those that I do not know would be aware of the situation. As for making my life hell? How would you like someone to repeatedly post outright lies about you on the internet? From killing cats to a simple misquoting me. In fact allowing the inference that I snuck alchol into the Stadium and saying I have been thrown out of places. I could not even attend Shorebirds Games because of the idiot taking our pictures. I posed for one as a joke and it has come back to haunt me. I was still getting comments from him on my blog after everything! I have moved on and in fact am done with my Robinson1320 blog. It has to many ties to the liar and my Old radio show. I gave it a try, it didn't work. I only got the same rating as Reddish. But I loved doing it and really thank WICO for the opporitunity and those 5 people that tuned in each day. The last I will ever publicly say on JOE--- He has gone back and removed numerous posts and comments about me as to try and shift his story. Thanks to some bloggers they actually printed his stuff and gave it to me. He will be held accountable. Finally, I do not think the Mayor or Chief have a legal leg to stand on. But I do hope they win. I am always as close as anemail or a phone call away if you want to discuss anything with me. Thanks for letting me respond to this post. I will try and make your blog one I read daily. John
Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:41 AM
You take care John. I hope he leaves you alone. It appears that Rapp and others have faded from his sites as you probably will eventually. That is of course as long as you don't poke a stick in him and stir!
Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:48 PM
Funny thing how Gunpowder/Tim calls Robinson out for being stupid, (in which he was) and Robinson pulls the old, "I will try and make your blog one I read daily." This is typical of Robinson to get nailed, cry like a baby, threaten a bullshit lawsuit and then say, I still want to be your friend. What everyone should know is, (this is the honest to God truth too) he has made contact with not one of my sources anyway. It's all bullshit and like I said on my Blog, he's a NARC. A Snitch. A piece of shit in my book. He claimed I lied about his getting fired and then I prove to him under his own Profile where it clearly said, I just got fired, will work for food. I slammed him with so much TRUTH he actually shut his Blog down. He is a Barrie Tilghman Puppet and the Idiot better damn site realize that IF he jeopardized any of my Sources in any way, shape or form, he is liable to be sued personally as John Robinson was NEVER present during ANY conversation I had with any one of them! Anything he has stated is hearsay and these people, (should any one of them be confronted by Barrie or the Chief) can now sue Robinson blind! You can call the bluff on a stupid man John Robinson but you're in a whole different league with me you Idiot. Let's all see where the chips fall now because I'd like to see this Mayor or Chief of Police start screwing with anyone they think are my sources. The funniest part is, the Chief is screwing up in a BIG way because he thinks my sources are within his own department and they're not. ROTFLMAO @ you Chief! I'll close with this. Yesterday we close the day with a record day and if you think your demand for people to stay off my site worked, Dee, Dee, Deeee! I know this isn't worth much Tim but this was truly an excellent Post. Well researched and well put together. My hat is tipped to you, seriously.
Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:09 PM
Sorry, I had to respond. Yes I have had one on ones with Joe’s sources. He lies again. Joe twists his comments again, he claimed i was fired "for calling Bill Reddish an ass," Another lie. I am no fan of Barry Tilghman but I respect the office. One of my dearest friends was Chief Dykes and I have never and will never forgive what was done to him by the Tilghman Administration. I supported Carolyn and Duke both when they ran against her. Its not hearsay when someone puts the so called, "sources," on speakerphone so I can hear everything he said. And NO I will never reveal these people because I wouldn’t want them hurt because you made them think they were safe. And finally my blog is Robinson1320 and references the old show. That’s why I will have suspended it and will start a new fresh one as 1320 and I are no longer affiliated. And last but not least, his post kind of confused me. I am not treating to sue anyone except JOE. In a perfect world a jaguar would escape from the ZOO maul the TRAIN WRECK. And when the Sheriff got the 911 call for help it would be transferred to the city who would loose it. And in an effort to Tranquilize the Jaguar TRAIN WRECK JOE would accidentally be shot by a so called ZOO vet tech- putting us all out of our misery.
Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:39 PM
small clarification, no blogs ever... but will have a web site
Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:49 PM
John, I love you too old buddy!
Friday, August 24, 2007 7:18 AM
Heh. Reading Salisbury "News" (dot com) is pretty much a guilty pleasure. Please note that the use of the word "pleasure" is only part of the analogy. It's the car accident that you can't help but look at. It's the mumbling transient in the back of the bus you can't help but listen to. The schizophrenic approach to posting makes it an entertaining read, because you go from personal attacks to cut-and-paste press releases to "exclusive" photos that no one else wants to forwarded jokes to "nature" photos and back again. It's a one stop shop of fun! So what if it feeds Joe's ego because he got a record amount of "hits" lately? It just feeds the delusion and keeps the entertainment going. Hell, I'm tempted to write a little script that will reload his page every 5 minutes, just to see the ensuing post about how popular he is!
Friday, August 24, 2007 7:22 AM
John, If you actually know, and you actually talked with each of them as you say then just tell the world who his contacts are and be done with it.
Friday, August 24, 2007 7:27 AM
Reading Sue's "news site" is like watching a NASCAR race, who the hell cares which driver wins but damn that car flipped three thimes before coming to a stop in the infield. WOW what a wreck, that one will make the highlights on ESPN! ROFLMAO
Friday, August 24, 2007 7:36 AM
Joey boy posted this.... "This is typical of Robinson to get nailed, cry like a baby, threaten a bullshit lawsuit and then say, I still want to be your friend. " Had he changed "Robinson" to "Albero" my gosh I'd say he is right! Its always the pot calling the kettle black with him.
Friday, August 24, 2007 2:21 PM
John Robinson, if they were not YOUR SOURCES, then why can you reveal them? Man this was better than a cat fight!
Friday, August 24, 2007 3:15 PM
Jabb & tomcat, i would not reveal them because it would be the wrong thing to do... EVEN as much as I would love to burn Albero... I wouldnt do that to some good people. They got sucked into his little game thinking they were bettering Salisbury... and thinking he would never give them up... They nowknow he is a liar. I have talked to two fireman and one policeman and i will talk to one morebut can not reveal her workplace... I hope that explains it. If not email me Also in reference to the lawsuit comment.. I have never sued anyone before nor threatened a lawsuit. In Joes case its not a threat its a promise. Because he has lied and put up posts he knew to be false rumors. As much threating as he does with lawsuits dont you think me constantly calling him a liar would bring on a lawsuit. He won't becuse its true. JOHN
Friday, August 24, 2007 3:57 PM
Sounds like we need to set up a quarantine around Delmar, since everyone who crosses paths with Sir Joseph ultimately regrets it. Perhaps there will eventually be a vaccine to "Albero Exposure" - but until then, it's best to keep at least 45 feet away. I know I personally burn all my clothes and bury my computer each time I visit the website. It's the only way to stay safe. Does anyone know just how powerful of a zoom lens he's got on that thing?
Friday, August 24, 2007 5:09 PM
What in the H E double L is going on here. You misunderstand a post on my blog about anti-sbynews, you say he outted himself, but he didn't really. Then someone freaks out and shuts down anti-sbynews. You must have been right in my opinion. Now Robinson is claiming that someone has taken over his old blog?? This is getting crazy. John, if you are out there, You NEED TO CALL BLOGGER AND GET IT STRAIGHT!
Friday, August 24, 2007 5:19 PM
Robinson is so full of crap! On again, off again, just like his Radio Show! Yeah, you're shutting down your Blog! LIAR! He knows everything, even sources. My God Robinson, go away and don't come back you Idiot! ME, ME, ME! I, I, I! AN DUH! Idiot! LIAR! Someone stole my Blog, my life! Give me a break! NARC!
Friday, August 24, 2007 6:08 PM
If I were one of Joseph's sources, my biggest worry would be the stigma of being attached to him in any way. Forget any professional repercussions, the personal ramifications are immense! It's kind of like the scarlet letter, only (thankfully) without the sex. Unfortunately, John Robinson has to live with that mark for as long as Joseph has a keyboard, internet connection and digital camera. There is no way to argue with or defend yourself against someone for whom logic and reason are foreign concepts. It's like tilting at windmills. My advice for John? Stay completely out of sight on the blogs. Nothing angers a bully more than being ignored and for those of us who are mere observers, it will provide a rich source of entertainment.
Friday, August 24, 2007 8:21 PM
I think SBYEscapee makes a great point here. I would only add that John Robinson is also thoroughly under-gunned in the ability to put together a coherent argument. He is also the first person I know that got into a battle of wits with Runaround Sue -- and was outgunned. John should adapt the strategy of the Soviet Union during the cold war and use "proxies" to make his attacks.
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